vBSEO Case Study "B" Commencement
September 27, 2007 Posted by Tyler CruzI decided to go ahead, take the risk, and install vBSEO on PokerForums.org and MovieForums.org.
Like vBulletin, vBSEO offers discounts the more purchases you buy, so I got both of these licenses for $140 each ($10 off). The price is really a non-factor though, my only concern is that I don’t drop for the search term “poker forums” as I’ve been #1 forever. Sometimes I drop to #2 or even #3 once in a blue moon, but Google updates their SERPs often so I bounce around a lot.
And 22% of my search-engine traffic comes from that one term. 4.5% comes from another term, so my only concern of installing vBSEO on PokerForums.org is if I somehow drop in ranking for this term, as it’d hurt my traffic quite a bit.
However, I’ve weighed the risks, and considering my domain name is probably the main reason I’m #1 for “poker forums”, it is very unlikely I will drop in ranking. I also talked to Joe Ward a fair bit on his thoughts and he thinks I should be fine as well.
What should happen, is that I start ranking higher and more often, for smaller “long tail” keywords and phrases. There is strength in numbers, and if I rank better for thousands of smaller terms, that can make a big difference in traffic.
PokerForums.org is my biggest site and has made me over 6-digits, so this move is a major one my friends. Simply, installing vBSEO could potentially net me tens of thousands of dollars.
My other site, MovieForums.org, will also be very interesting to watch. It has secured a solid #3 placement for “movie forums” for quite a while now, and I’m very curious to see if vBSEO will improve me to #2 or even #1. I’m also interested, of course, to see the traffic increase from smaller terms it may or may not yield.
Since running vBSEO on PokerForums.org is such a big deal (at least to me), I will be updating this “B” vBSEO Case Study every month.
Here is my starting data (uninteresting for now, but is to be used to compare against in two weeks time):
PokerForums.org
Traffic:
August 26 – September 25
Google Organic: 7,254
Yahoo Organic: 828
Indexed Pages:
August 26 – September 25
Google: 43,500
MSN: 150
Yahoo/Fast/AltaVista: 102,002
SERP Results:
– = Not in the first 200 results
G = Google
M = MSN
Y = Yahoo!
“Search Term” [Original] [Last Ranking] [Current Ranking]
“poker forums″ [G 1 M 4 Y 2]
“poker forum″ [G 6 M 16 Y 4]
“online poker forum” [G 4 M — Y 2]
“poker″ [G — M — Y–]
MovieForums.org
Traffic:
August 26 – September 25
Google Organic: 4,987
Yahoo Organic: 263
Indexed Pages:
August 26 – September 25
Google: 4,330
MSN: 51
Yahoo/Fast/AltaVista: 2,962
SERP Results:
– = Not in the first 200 results
G = Google
M = MSN
Y = Yahoo!
“Search Term” [Original] [Last Ranking] [Current Ranking]
“movie forums” [G 3 M 3 Y –]
“movie forum” [G 3 M 40 Y –]
“movies” [G — M — Y –]
It took me over an hour to grab that data… it’s very hard to get accurate SERP results as 99% of tools are incorrect or don’t work at all. So the only real data I can depend on is the organic traffic, but at least it’s the only data that ultimately matters.
I’ll be back in a month from now to let you know how things go.
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Hopefully it will bring you to #1 for “poker forums” on Yahoo and MSN.
I just looked to see what was #1 on Yahoo, and the site doesn’t seem relevant at all. Hopefully you can jump over that site.
Actually 2+2 Forums is the largest and most popular poker forum 🙂 It’s ugly as hell and running UBB if I remember correctly, but most of the best players post there.
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